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post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 15-09-15, 01:27 PM Thread Starter
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Well, it would seem that the discs on my EcoSport will need changing every 6,500 miles or so. (Error in my previous post, changed at 6,400 not 4,600 miles.)

Dealer said that pads are not changed under warranty so can't do anything about the suggestions made here. The dealer also hinted that there might be an issue that they are aware of but didn't seem to want to tell me about it!

I work for the company in the UK and still don't understand why customers are treated like idiots. We told them what the problem was but they didn't want to know, had to follow the "process".

Love the car but two warranty visits in 11 months?
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Our second EcoSport has just had it's first year service. New discs were fitted as we had a lot of brake judder. We reported it months ago but the dealer said they could find nothing wrong. This time they again said there was nothing wrong but my husband insisted they took it for a road test in a national speed limit area and brake from 70. Warped discs!
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Interesting...Ive just traded in my Ecoboost B-Max, horrible judder when slowing down from 60-70mph on motorway....newish discs and pads too...

Presume its the same pads / discs setup as an ecosport?
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Have to say, even on my second ES never had this issue.

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Hi guys can anybody help me out please I have an eco sport 1.5 diesel tdci titanium 2016 model I have owned it 8 weeks and had 3 sets of new discs and pads on and suspension arms and bushes and I keep getting a brake judder when braking. They have replaced all the above and the fault is still there does anybody have any idea what else it could be or if this is a common fault Or what the fault was above please
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Modern vehicles have the ABS sensors mounted close to the hub. The hub bearing has machining to give the sensor the ability to check all is well. Our Rover had reluctor rings on the CV joint at the front and on the rear hub which the above have replaced. Hope this is clearer than mud.It was important that the reluctor rings were kept clean and at the correct distance from the sensor. Rovers had a problem with the reluctor rings cracking which caused brake judder at lowish speeds. Often diagnosed as warped discs.
Perhaps the rush to replace discs without checking run out is hiding another fault ie the bearings or making sure there is no crude where the disc is mounted on the hub, which will cause run out like a warped disc.. Whilst it would be thought all this would be checked faulty bearings are not unknown.I don't know about Indian bearings but my Brother in Canada has had his Land Rover transfer box bearings fail after a few miles and that is a BIG Job. On investigation, although a branded make, he found that the bearings were made in China.

While waiting whilst our Ecosport was being serviced I overheard a male complaining that his Kuga was having it's rear discs replaced yet again. This time he was going to have to pay.

Perhaps if you raise the car off the ground and spin the wheels individually you might hear a grumbling bearing? It does seem strange that discs are failing at a low mileage.Another check, is remove the pads and then spin the wheel and watch for wobbling on the disc which will be obvious in the pads slot of the caliper.
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Modern cars have machining in the wheel bearings to give the ABS sensors the ability to check all is well. On our old Rover, reluctor rings had a habit of cracking and causing brake judder,.

Whilst modern methods of production have improved reliability, branded goods are not always what it says on the box. my Brother in Canada replaced the transfer box bearings on his Land Rover only to have them fail shortly afterwards. It turned out the bearings were made in China. The earlier Ecosports being made in India might have some input into early failure.

You say you have had the car for 8 weeks did you buy it from a dealer or private. If a dealer go and speak to them, you say they suggesting a dealer. Good luck.
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Hey Freddy ford. Yeah I bought it from the dealer they have done all the repairs and they are saying there is no fault on the car and it’s just the way the car is But the judder is still there and they are refusing to do anything else about it.
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Not had any problems with my 2016 Ecosport with regard braking, and still on the same discs, but on second set of pads due to normal wear (changed at 28k miles). Was told that disks at the time were scored and need replacement, but thats just sales talk to make you get the discs changed at cost, No way, nothing wrong with them, they will do for many more thousands of miles.

As for wheel bearings, not had a problem since my 1980's Ford Escort XR3i turbo, when one of the rear wheel bearings decided to explode into a million bits and the wheel nearly came off on the motorway. That was an AA rescue job as I was stranded at the side of the road
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Not had any problems with my 2016 Ecosport with regard braking, and still on the same discs, but on second set of pads due to normal wear (changed at 28k miles). Was told that disks at the time were scored and need replacement, but thats just sales talk to make you get the discs changed at cost, No way, nothing wrong with them, they will do for many more thousands of miles.

As for wheel bearings, not had a problem since my 1980's Ford Escort XR3i turbo, when one of the rear wheel bearings decided to explode into a million bits and the wheel nearly came off on the motorway. That was an AA rescue job as I was stranded at the side of the road [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/EcoSportOwnersClub_uk/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG]
I’m on my third set amd only done 2700 miles my self in the vehicle and only had the car 8weeks
I’ve also found out it failed it’s first MOT on brakes aswell which they never mentioned to me at the time of pick up.

I honestly don’t no what to do as it pulling to the left when braking mechanics have said there is nothing wrong with the car but clearly there is

I’ve contacted my finance company and they can not do anything as the dealership says the car is fine
One mechanic has suggested ABS but the refuse to look at that
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