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Hi All, has anyone had any issues with the rear door seal. I always find water on the bottom of the sill (on the outside) after a heavy shower.

Also notice it sounds noisy in the back of the car, not sure weather its covered under warranty. I'm guessing not. Should have said its a 2017 car.
 

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Hi, you said on the bottom of the sill outside? Where is this exactly. I was just checking around my eco today, as only had it a fortnight. In the boot, under the mat is the compressor thing, in a polystyrene holder. If you lift that polystyrene out, then there is a bit of a dip in the back, well there was some water in it today. Not had any rain for a while, so don't know how it got there. Not sure how it got there, but am at Fords in the morning, and will be asking so will see what they say. Anybody any ideas?
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Morning, I haven't checked the boot area, something to look at this weekend. I noticed the area on the rear drivers side door, after rain when i open the rear door you can see all the water pouring onto the ground. My worry is as this area is painted is it going to be an issue going forward if the door remains shut for a few days the water will just sit there. Let me know what Ford say, they have been a bit lazy with me on a few issues.
 

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I appreciate the 2018 model is slightly different to the 2017 model( that is if you have a spare wheel mounted on the door) but if you open the rear door, there is a 'gully'? all round with the seal raised up. Sorry if not clear BUT all the water should remain on the outside of the seal. Water does collect on the rear 'bumper' because the seal is above it. As Bobbyescort says look under the luggage floor ( again mine might be different) and it all should be dry if it's not then in all probability you might have a leak. Inspect the seal all the way round and check there is contact with the door. It will probably be shiny.If there is a dull spot or visa a versa it is possibly not making contact, this would be a matter for a claim. Also if there is a split or nick in the rubber it will leak. Something I find irritating is when the rear door is opened after rain, because of the forward facing lip on the top of the door which is a head smacker, it drips down onto the' boot' floor on the inside of the car.

Sorry if not clear but as I am an old duffer the brain don't do what I want it to do.
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There are subtle differences in the design of the rear door between pre-mid 2017 models and new shape 2017-onwards models.

The main thing is that rain water can and does collect on the outside on rear bumper, but comes off while driving, though can pool when stationary. This is OK.

Rain water on no accounts should collect inside the car, be it the boot or the inside of the rear door, though as said by Freddy you can get drips into the boot when door is opened, but that can be wiped off.
 

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I took my eco in this morning. Gave Ford a list of things need sorting under warranty, as they sold the car like that to me. I was in the show room and see the sales man I dealt with outside with the managing director, looking at my car. So I went out to see what they talking about. Told him straight, need these things sorting out and not happy. My passenger side rear door, is not flush to the body of the car, same as fuel flap. Reverse light cracked and half inch water in it! I not happy, and he new it. The salesman said, oh well they are mass produced, I said, so what, all doors should be flush with the body for aerodynamics. Water in my boot, rear light loose. Wheel arch lining got clips missing. Told them straight, needs doing under warranty, or I will take this to trading standards, for selling dangerous vehicle. Water electric, not good combination. Will keep posted how it goes.
 

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When he says they are mass produced, they still have to be under some quality control in the factory.

The best car in the world for quality control is the Japanese, and I had many a Japanese car that was ultra reliable, as there was massive quality control and the parts well designed.

Unfortunately with Ford due to costs, I assume that they only do random batch testing method, which means some faults like bad components or hard to distinguish faults can be missed till the owner discovers them, but body work flaws should have been looked at every car before leaving the factory.

I put it down to a 'could not care less attitude' which is prevalent in some car factories where quality control is not priority, and getting car numbers out the door is, even if someone in the factory knows the car is not perfect.

You the owner, are at the end of the line, paying for a product that you yourself have to prove that it is fit for use.

The only saving grace of all this is that companies like ford and Vauxhall are getting better at producing good cars with less faults, but have stil got to go a long way to achieve Japanese quality control.

Japanese quality control at every stage in car production is not just for the Japanese, as I bought a Honda Civic Coupe decades ago from Ohio USA and shipped to the UK, but it was to Japanese supervision quality control standards, and had nothing wrong with that car for the 10 years I owned it. I wish all cars could be like that ;)
 

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Well, seems they have got the body work sorted. But they ordered the wrong light! So have given me a loan car and supposed to be getting the light in tomorrow. Yet the light they got was a week! So will see what tomorrow brings eh. Joy's of car dealers, and lights that are so complicated these days.
 

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Well it does seem that the dealer is trying to sort the car. I like Colin owned a Honda but mine was a Jazz. It was built at Swindon, yes the Jazz was made there for a couple of years and now it's production has gone back to Japan. It was well made but as always the dealer was the problem. On the subject of Honda and the Jazz, if I have it correct the HRV which is a stretched Jazz, is being made in Mexico. There is a tale of whole train loads of components going missing, well the drug barons have to diversify. Also reported on the Jazz forum about a person buying a new HRV only to find when he lifted the bonnet at home the whole engine compartment full of sand.Starting price is well into the £20000 mark. When brought up with the dealer was told OK we will clean it out at first service. PDI???? missing from the system now?
To be honest, perhaps I am lucky but our Ecosport is pretty well put together, a couple of panels are very slightly out but no more than the Jazz. Whilst I had the hiccup which disappeared to be fair to the dealer they did try to find the problem but touch wood it has not happened again. Any squeaks have been something we have put in the car rubbing. The engine oil level hasn't moved in 4500 miles and the auto box is now quite smooth.Perhaps Fords need to pull their socks up but I must have had an early one from Romania when they were watching the quality control. No doubt I shall regret my words BUT!!!!!!
 

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Hi, well got my Ecosport back today, and all is good. All the jobs I listed to be looked at under warranty are done. So credit due to Ford this time on this matter. I had a courtesy car, the new KA, well I must say it was a pleasure to drive, a 1.2 and very nippy. Lot of modern toys in it lol as to be expected these day's.Big improvement on the old style KA. You said about panels slightly out, I had my rear door slightly out on nearside rear. Ford have adjusted it, now it flush with body.
 

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Glad your sorted.

But you may still get some standing water on the rear bumper if car has been stationary, its just the Ecosport's design.

Anyway the rear bumper is either standard plastic or colour coded plastic depending on your model, and so will not rust :D
 
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